Sean Penn says he'd welcome Sheen's help in Haiti

Sean Penn says he thinks Charlie Sheen could do a lot of good in Haiti, both for himself and the nation



struggling to recover from a devastating earthquake.



"I think his energies, intelligence and passion could be both of service and servicing to him, as it is to all



who are touched by the struggle of the Haitian people," Penn said in a statement Friday.



"Charlie is one of the very few public people who cannot be accused of using the media to his own benefit. I



would very much like to show my old friend the world of needs on the ground in Haiti, and introduce him and his



tremendous wit to our hard working Haitian staff."



Penn's message of support came hours after Sheen told "Access Hollywood" that he and Penn were planning a trip



to the Caribbean nation, although no date for their travel has been announced.



"If he chooses to give support, I'll trust it," the Academy Award winner said.



Sheen, who has been on a media blitz since Monday, says he would like to bring the attention of the world back



to Haiti, where Penn has been a fixture since a January 2010 earthquake destroyed more than 500,000 homes.

ABORTION A NWO TOOL FOR DEPOPULATION CLASSIFIED GENOCIDE FOR THE MURDER OF YOUNG INFANTS

After seeing a thread on how abortion is genocide/murder HERE http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread666334/pg39#pid10651668



I decided to set out to show why abortion is not the black and white issue that a lot of people are treating it as, and why it is therefore legal to abort. I am not here to discuss why aborting late is a bad thing - I am simply proving there is no magical line where a human life begins - so to therefore we can not say abortion is murder or genocide or that it is flat out wrong - these arguments are all technically incorrect. You can say it is morally wrong - but that is your opinion and that is all it is. Our law's are designed to be based on factual evidence and the morals of society as a whole - not opinion. I am not trying to prove if abortion should be done earlier or later - just that there is no line on when life begins so we can therefore not know when abortion becomes wrong.



I am going to write this thread in such a way as to try to address both spiritual/religious people and non spiritual/religious people views.



Stages of pregnancy

First, lets all take a quick look at the stages in the begining of pregnancy - remembering we are not arguing when abortion should take place but if there is a point where life starts and it should not take place because in law taking a life is murder.



Before week 4:

Within four days of fertilization, the sex of the zygote can be determined through microscopic techniques. Soon after one week of fertilization, the zygote contains the beginning of all major body structures. Fetal circulation occurs by three weeks - complete with heart and major blood vessels coursing through its quarter-inch frame.

Week 4 - 1mm (fetus length) looks like a tiny tadpole

The embryonic disk has become thicker and oval in shape, coiled up because the outermost layer, the ectoderm, has developed faster than the endoderm. One end of it has swollen to form the brain, and the other corresponds to the coccyx. Between the two, the neural groove will form the central nervous system.

Week 5: 1.5 - 2.5 mm (fetus length) at five weeks, all basic body systems are developing, including the brain and nervous system enabling the fetus to feel pain.

week 6: 4 - 6 mm (fetus length)

week 8: 8 -11mm (fetus length)

week 10: 27 - 35 mm (fetus length)

A lot of people would argue that the life begins when the sperm fertalizes the embryo to form a zygote.

A zygote is synthesized from the union of two gametes.

Human sex cells (sperm and egg) have one complete set of chromosomes from the male or female parent. Sex cells, also called gametes, combine to produce somatic cells. Somatic cells therefore have twice as many chromosomes.

A human somatic cell contains 46 chromosomes: 2 complete haploid sets, which make up 23 homologous chromosome pairs.



So at this point we have a cell that has human DNA but is DNA life?



What are we? Mind, soul, body, DNA?





The DNA argument



Many of us are used to thinking of DNA as this unchanging programming that governs all our body’s responses for the rest of our lives. In essence, certain things about our DNA are unlikely to change, ever. But there are a number of outside things that could result in minor DNA change. Source

With this argument when we created a zygote with 48 chromosomes we say life was created.

But life can not be defined by our DNA because as shown above our DNA changes - does this mean when it changes we cease to exist?

Or is human life defined by having 46 chromosomes - if that is the case what about the people with fewer or greater chromosomes?

If life is defined as just having chromosomes then the sperm also has a life.



The soul argument:



Assuming we see the sould as a distinct entity separate from the body and considering we have no way of knowing if the soul really exists or if it does- when it actually enters the body.



If God exists then having an abortion may be a waste of the gift of life but it has only killed the body - not the soul- you are not really destoying a life here because God could give that soul a new body - if it is his will.

We have only taken away an oportunity that we also created.

IMO people of religion often demonstrate here that they do not believe in their own faith, if the life we have taken this "life" then what was it beforehand? Did god create the soul when the fertilization took place? or did it already exist? If god created it's soul upon fertilization did he destroy it when the body died - if so is that murder?

If the sould was not there before hand then we may have killed the body but we still have created the soul.



If no God or any form of afterlife exists - then nothing happens when we die, and this fetus (say it with me) is not self aware at before it has a brain (we can not pinpoint where self awareness starts) - so no harm has been done because this life is meaningless anyway and this 'thing' did not even no what life was to be able to miss it



The living argument:





Some would go as far as saying the sperm itself is the seed of life and should not be "spilled". Masturbation in their eye's is a crime. This actually make about as much sense than the fertilisation argument - because the sperm is just as alive as a zygote, it has no brain or heart but it is comprised of functioning cells, with the exception of the zygote having the combined DNA - which would take us back to the DNA argument. So for those who say abortion is wrong (refer to definition below) - this mean you are also guilty of murder if you masturbate if you are use the living argument.

 

The mind argument:



The mind argument is easy to dismiss because in order to have a mind we must have thought and feelings which requires a brain (unless you feel the sould can think then go to the soul argument). The brain of the fetus is in the begining stages of development in week 5. Brain development in fetus and its associated problems are still being researched. Hence, there are no specific answers to the how's and why's of fetal brain development.

Week 29 to Week 40: The third trimester stage is highlighted with fewer brain developments. The brain continues to grow and increase rapidly in size, all the while establishing connections between nerve cells. The brain along with the lung is the last organ to develop, and is completed close to the end of the third trimester. A newborn's brain is only about one-quarter the size of an adult's.



As you are unable to prove for a fact where a human being becomes human it can not be argued that it is wrong.

- Definition: Wrong: "•incorrect: not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth"



As you are unable to prove a life was taken, because we do not know what stage life begins during the begining of pregnancy - it is not murder

- Definition:Murder: Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being with "malice aforethought", and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter)





The genocide argument is not even close to accurate and not worth debating futher - we will leave it to a dictionary.



- Definition: Genocide: •systematic killing of a racial or cultural group

NWO PLANS TO DEPOPULATE THE EARTHS POPULATION TO 500 MILLION

"If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels" -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh



World population is, by all intents and purposes, completely out of control.



Plans are underway now, implemented by the New World Order Elite, to depopulate the planet's 6-7 billion people to a manageable level of between 500 million and 2 billion.



There are many means and methods of depopulation that are being employed today, the 3 primary of which include; unsustainable/exploitative international development, which leads to massive hunger, starvation and famine worldwide (at least 40 million deaths annually), the fomentation of war, hatred and military procurements throughout the nations leading to millions of deaths worldwide, and finially, the creation and spread of infectious diseases leading to global pandemic, plague and pestilence on an unprecedented scale.



Other methods used include; the build-up and use of nuclear, chemical and biological agents, weapons and warfare, the poisoning and contamination of the planet's food and water supplies, the introduction and use of deadly pharmacuetical drugs in society, weather modification and the triggering of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and tsunamis through electromagnetic psychotronic weapons both on Earth and in space, the promotion of homosexuality to limit population growth and spread the deadly AIDS virus, forced sterilization in countries such as China, forced vaccinations, abortion, euthanasia etc...





Death, and the management of who lives and who dies, has become the central organizing principle of the 21st century.



The previous century has been, by far, the bloodiest in human history. Hunger, famine and disease took billions of innocent lives. World Wars 1 and 2, along with the despotic regimes of Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Reagan, Bush and others, took hundreds of millions. The 21st century is shaping up to accelerate this dismal trend where hunger, famine and disease are reaping record levels of death (the equivalent of 7 jewish holocaust annually). Contemporary wars continue to rage on and proliferate. In the nation of Iraq, the killing fields have taken the lives of more than 2 million men, women and children (mostly children) this past decade from foreign and economic intervention. Vastly unreported is the genocide occuring in the Congo, where more than 4 million people have been slaughtered, mutilated and massacred recently with only scant world attention given. Add to this the unrestrained and very profitable build-up of weapons of mass destruction- nuclear, chemical and biological- in the world, particularily in the volatile Middle East region, with the expressed desire and willingness to actually use them, and you have an Apocalypse of World War 3 becoming a virtual inevitability. The death toll of THIS war is sure to surpass all previous in scale and in magnitude, as has been planned.



The international campaign to eliminate the "useless eaters" (according to the Club of Rome) on behalf of the planet's priviledged ruling elite, is surely to take a more voracious toll as global population levels continue to rise.



To implement their "final solution" to depopulate 4-5 billion people from the Earth, the world's elite will undoubtedly harness the newly emerging biotech and nanotechnology industries to create a super 'bioweapon' virus creating a global 'kill-off' pandemic through which only they will have the cure.